Ask a doctor! That's what I did yesterday when Dr. Ronald Wyatt graciously agreed to an interview during his lunch break. Dr. Wyatt practices medicine in Madison, Alabama and will be moderating a panel of doctors at 7 pm tonight in Huntsville at Trinity Methodist Church, addressing this question: Can we have universal coverage, quality care and controlled cost?
We all know the health reform debate is extremely acrimonious and political right now. I hoped Dr. Wyatt could cut through the he said/she said talking points and offer insight into the care side of the American health care system. In particular, how do the millions of uninsured Americans get care, what happens if we bring them into the system -- will we all have to settle for less care -- and will cutting costs by reducing duplication and inefficiency result in lower standards of care for everyone?
Millions of Americans have no health insurance right now. Does that mean they get no health care?
Dr. Wyatt says no, they do get treatment. "Many people that have no insurance are already in the system. They go to urgent care." Not-for-profit institutions are obligated to see anyone who comes through the door. He said the question is how to pay for the uninsured once they are into a health care system. Currently the cost of that care is shared with other patients and their insurers through cost-shifting or is covered by government subsidies to not-for-profit and teaching institutions. We're already paying for the cost of some care for the uninsured, albeit indirectly.
Will our health care system be swamped if millions of uninsured Americans are suddenly brought into the system, leading to less care for those who already have insurance?
Bringing uninsured Americans into the system won't cause a shortage of physicians and services -- the physician shortage already exists, particularly in the case of primary care physicians. Dr. Wyatt estimates Madison County has a shortage of 50 to 60 primary care physicians right now. "If you bring more people into the system ... yes, you will need additional primary care physicians, but we already know that. We know that there is a need. The issue with supply of physicians is more of what are the incentives for medical students to do primary care medicine and that gets back to the economics of medical education ..." and what are the challenges: "paperwork, insurance company requirements that impose on your ability to practice medicine."
He also points to a shortage of physicians practicing in rural areas, noting this is also an existing problem, not something health care reform or universal coverage would bring about. Effective health care reform needs to address both the shortage of primary care physicians and the problem of under-served areas.
Are the cost savings possible through greater efficiency overstated? Will forcing such savings on providers drive down the quality of care or the level of patient services?
Dr. Wyatt says no. "It will not drive down the level of services. There is, I would say, billions of dollars spent on repetitious ordering, on errors, that are either in hospitals or on medications. You have to factor in the amount of money that's paid for malpractice insurance, and so-called defensive medicine. In a system as ours where there's not an integrated electronic record it's easy to duplicate tests."
"So, there's a lot of money in the system that can be taken out. And I think you look back at Atul Gawande and Elliott Fisher at Dartmouth who looked at just variation in health care and you find that the areas that have the highest amount of money being spent per capita on health care have the lowest quality. So there's a disconnect."
Dr. Wyatt is referring to an article in The New Yorker, The Cost Conundrum by Atul Gawande, exploring Medicare costs in McAllen,TX. A few weeks ago we pointed you toward that same article which found that although costs in McAllen were among the very highest in the nation -- actually higher than per capita income -- residents did not have the best quality health care in the nation. Dr. Wyatt also referred to the Dartmouth Atlas when he spoke of the wide variation in health care cost and quality in America -- check out this interactive map. Higher cost does not always, or even usually, equal higher quality when it comes to health care.
"Variation is a real issue. And it's how do we take the variation out of health care? How do we do that and at the same time not interfere with a physician's ability to practice the way he or she sees best fit. When you have the highest cost of care in McAllen Texas and then you have a lower cost of care and better quality in San Francisco, we say there's an issue there. There's real money that can be taken out of the system and applied somewhere else." For more on variation, see Slowing the Growth of Health Care Costs -- Lessons from Regional Variation by Fisher, Bynum and Skinner in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Leadership is needed at three levels. In their practices, physicians can help patients understand when a more conservative path is likely to be as safe as a more intensive and higher-cost path. In their communities, physicians have the credibility to argue against the need for further growth - whether through hospital expansion, the construction of new imaging centers, or the recruitment of more specialists to oversupplied regions (www.dartmouthatlas.org provides spending, hospital, and workforce data for each U.S. hospital-referral region). And physicians can support changes in the health care system that will help their patients and communities get the best possible care at the lowest possible cost.
But physicians will need help from payers and policymakers. Under the current payment system, physicians cannot afford the time it takes to help patients understand why a test or procedure is not needed. Hospitals lose money when they improve care in ways that reduce admissions, and they lose market share when they don't keep pace in the local medical arms race. In this race there are no financial rewards for collaboration, coordination, or conservative practice.
"If you look at the amount money being spent just on readmissions, it's in the billions. So if you look at the amount of money being spent on admissions that are maybe not appropriate - that's billions of dollars. How do we get to a point where we can pull that money out? A large part of it has to do with making sure people have insurance, making sure that the tests we do, the orders we write, the medicines we give, have some basis in things that work. That's called comparative effectiveness. ... Comparative effectiveness research is needed, and then I think taking some of the risk out of practice in terms of liability deserves a good look. Even though the malpractice rates remain pretty stable, the malpractice premiums have gone up ..."
In short, we need to focus on what works, stop wasting money on treatments or procedures that are duplicative or don't improve patient outcomes, reduce hospital readmissions (you want the provider to get it right the first time) and inappropriate admissions, and reduce defensive medicine and malpractice costs.
What about Medicare -- a government run, taxpayer funded health insurance -- does it offer good care for patients?
Dr. Wyatt said the biggest issue with Medicare is the lack of primary care physicians to see patients. Some of that has to do with the level of reimbursements -- and low reimbursement rates are a problem most health care reform proposals do address -- some of it has to do with the complicated nature of the medical problems senior citizens have. He complimented Medicare on its very low administrative overhead in the range of 3 to 5%. That's well below the rate for private insurance companies, in part because Medicare does not have that level of upper management receiving millions of dollars in salaries and benefits.
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