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Auburn Trustees and Officials Are Flying High: $492,640 Spent on Private Jets

by: countrycat

Mon Mar 30, 2009 at 11:32:10 AM CDT


Remember when university officials at both Auburn and Alabama rebuffed the PACT board's requests for tuition assistance? Their excuse was quite legitimate: legislative funding cuts have left them strapped for funds and requiring steep tuition hikes for students.

But Huntsville Times reporter, Bob Lowry, (whose PACT reporting has made him one of my favorite Alabama journalists) seems to have uncovered another issue:  Auburn University officials and trustees' jet-setting ways have cost the university almost half a million dollars during the 2008-08 fiscal year.

Auburn University spent nearly $500,000 flying its administrators and board of trustee members on its two corporate jets during the past fiscal year, records show.

The University of Alabama spent considerably less during the same period - $30,500 - for flights on its lone jet, and trustees rarely were aboard.

Lowry's article contains a full page of flight logs from both Alabama and Auburn. 

Perusing them last night, I was blown away by some of the descriptions, destinations, and charges.  For instance, on October 9, 2007, Auburn University spent $4747 to fly "unidentified passengers" to Tunica, MS.

TUNICA?  For what?  Perhaps this is the new funding strategy for Auburn's development staff.  Maybe the slots and craps tables look like more of a sure thing than the Alabama legislature.  But darn, couldn't they at least have done their gambling in Alabama?

Almost as entertaining as the descriptions of the flights is the explanation by Auburn spokesman, Mike Clardy, for the numerous private flights instead of commercial:

Clardy said it's more practical for the university to use its own jets even though commercial travel through the Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport is less than 90 minutes from Auburn and the Montgomery Regional Airport is only an hour away.

He noted that traveling through Atlanta also involves a time zone change. 

"...involves a time zone change." Remember kids: this is a major university in the United States. 

More examples on the flip....

countrycat :: Auburn Trustees and Officials Are Flying High: $492,640 Spent on Private Jets

Note that in the Fall of 2007, Auburn's average undergraduate annual tuition and fees was about $5800.  hmmm... a scholarship student could have attended school for almost a whole year on what the University spent on a jaunt to Tunica.

Here are a couple more:

Date Destination Charge Commercial Cost or Mileage Savings
10/15/2007 Houston (4 people, including wives of President Gogue & trustee Blackwell) $6,985 $1,485 $5,500
4/2008 Hilton Head, SC (2 trips for Trustee Ginn, wife & son) $6,388 $1,570 $4,818
12/2007 Teterboro, NJ $30,744 $3720 $27,024
 3 trips State College, PA $51,188 $8200 (first class) $42,988
14 trips Birmingham $27,756 $2,310 (300 miles round trip at .55/mile) $25,446
11 trips Mobile $40,646 $2,725 (450 miles round trip at .55/mile) $37,921
5 trips Huntsville $11,560 $1375 (500 miles round trip at .55/mile) $10,185
      Total:

$153,882

The savings here is enough to pay tuition for approximately 25 students for a year. And good heavens, there are dozens of flights not listed in this little table!

Note the particulars on some of these:

  • Flight to Teterboro, NJ was so University personnel could attend the College of Human Sciences annual Quality of Life awards in New York City.Hmmm... wouldn't you think they'd have known about this well in advance and been able to get good commercial flight prices?  The log doesn't say how many people spent a week in New York City at this event, so I estimated 12 traveling from Montgomery to LaGuardia.
  • Hilton Head flights:  Since Trustee Ginn was traveling to Auburn for just 2 days, I calculated that he could have left his family in Hilton Head.  The commercial flight charge is for him alone.
  • Trips to State College, PA appear to have been recruitment trips for the now-VP for Research John Mason and his wife.  True, State College, PA is in the middle of nowhere, but $50,000 for three trips?  Don't you think Auburn could have explained that "hey, we can spend $50 grand to fly you down, or spend a fraction of that and save the rest for research funding.  Whadya say, John? Commercial work for you?"
  • Mobile Flights:  One of these flights is for Gogue's wife to attend "The Queen's Luncheon" on Mardi Gras.  University business?
  • Speaking of Queens... One of the Birmingham flights (May 16, 2008) was to pick up Mrs. Gouge in Birmingham after she flew in from Albuquerque.  University business?

There were at least 3 trips where President Gogue traveled to DC on the plane ALONE - at a cost of about $9500/trip.  That's $28,500.  Commercial airfare from Montgomery to Washington, DC is $482.  Compare the $28,500 to $1446 - but not on a full stomach.

There are numerous other lobbying trips to Washington, DC that I didn't calculate, but each cost over $9,000.  It's an HOUR to the Montgomery airport.  Why can't these people fly commercial on regularly scheduled trips?  It's hard for me to believe that most of these were short-notice, emergency events.

And why can't these $%$# trustees drive to board meetings like everyone else?  I've served on many local and several statewide boards. Nobody has ever offered to fly me anywhere or covered any expenses other than lunch.  Surely there are people willing to serve on these boards who don't expect to live like European royalty as they serve!

Garbage like this just makes it more difficult for higher education insitutions to plead their case with the Legislature and with the citizens of Alabama.  It looks like Auburn at least is crying wolf about their financial woes. 

If they can spend half a million each year on private flights, one wonders what else is going on down on the Plains that could be eliminated before tuition rises and positions are cut.

One of the reasons (other than a stupid investment policy) that the Alabama PACT program is in trouble is because of skyrocketing tuition at Alabama and Auburn's main campuses. I'm sympathetic: I've seen how much higher education has been cut to protect K-12.

But it appears to this PACT parent that while Auburn poormouths about funding on the one hand, the President, his wife, trustees, their spouses, and God knows who else are living the high life at 5,000 feet.

 

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Entitlement (4.00 / 2)

I get the distinct sense that our public servants feel a sense of entitlement  -- that plane trips and other perks are their due.  Maybe they feel this way because their salaries are insufficient or they envy the life of corporate high rollers, but there's no excuse for such excess when most Alabamians -- their employers -- live very modest lives on very modest incomes.  Auburn is not New York City!

Public service means serving the people for the greater good, not living it up while the people foot the bill.  The officials -- especially at Auburn -- who have been doing all this traveling in style need to put the brakes on.  And some of them need to reimburse the state for those questionable trips.   



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Daddycat had the same take on it. (4.00 / 2)

He said they think they're "entitled" to all these perks.

What gripes me is how close they are to commercial airports, but choose to fly private. Of course, the absolute worst thing is all the flights to Birmingham.  FLIGHTS!  And when they get there, do you suppose they rent cars to get to their destinations?

All this flying over driving opens up so many questions about other expenses.



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[ Parent ]
Time zone change (4.00 / 2)

Back when I was an undergraduate engineering student, the Auburn engineering program came in for a lot of ribbing from our faculty and staff -- a hapless Auburn student made an appearance on every Stability and Performance test -- but I figured it was just good natured rivalry.  Surely those Auburn folks weren't really inept.  Then the Auburn spokesman comes out with the time zone excuse.

Clardy said it's more practical for the university to use its own jets even though commercial travel through the Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport is less than 90 minutes from Auburn and the Montgomery Regional Airport is only an hour away.

He noted that traveling through Atlanta also involves a time zone change. 

Good grief, most folks without a high school diploma can cope with a 1 hour time change.  Do these highly educated Auburn folks expect us to believe they would personally pay an extra few thousand dollars for a trip just to avoid having to remember the plane leaves at 8 am Eastern time which is 7 am in Auburn?  No.  So why do they do it when the state is footing the bill?

 



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[ Parent ]
Something just don't seem kosher about those numbers....I'm not an accountant (4.00 / 1)

but I do know that the numbers can be manipulated to arrive at a conclusion you want if you work them enough, especially by a writer I understand was terminated from Auburn University's Office of Communications and Marketing. 

I would be very interested to see exactly how all those cost were arrived at.  Maybe Nick Saban was making so many recruiting trips on UAT's plane that the athletic department there was paying most of the overhead on the plane, so from an accounting standpoint, each flight of that plane was distributed over allot more flights.  Could be a dozen explanations why there is such a differential between the two universities.

I do know AU President is intimatedly involved in fund raising for the University, and if his trips are bringing in far more money than the flights, then that could be a very good reason why the costs are so high.

But I really think the writer has an ax to grind with Auburn University, and I think he's leaving allot of the story out of his article. 

  



[ Parent ]
What writer? (4.00 / 1)

Bob Lowry?  Please, more info if available!

And explain this a little more. I'm confused:

Maybe Nick Saban was making so many recruiting trips on UAT's plane that the athletic department there was paying most of the overhead on the plane, so from an accounting standpoint, each flight of that plane was distributed over allot more flights.

There were far fewer flights from UAT (26 are reported for Tuscaloosa compared to 120 +/- for Auburn), so overhead doesn't seem to be the issue. 

The big difference between Auburn and Alabama seems to be that trustees and their spouses get flown all over the place - particularly to board meetings.  Alabama uses its plane mainly to fly the president of the University & top staffers to travel out of state.  Some of those flights - to Atlanta, DC, and Dallas - could obviously easily have been done commercially.  However, the number of flights and passengers doesn't even compare to Auburn's total.

Since these flight logs came directly from the Universities, I would hesitate to assume ill will on the part of the reporter.  These numbers seem to stand on their own.

But, I'm not an insider at all in this matter, and it sounds like you have more info.  Dish, please!

 



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[ Parent ]
Not sure of the source....but here is a story (4.00 / 1)
Five more get axe at Auburn (8/25/04)

A painful promise was kept at Auburn University Tuesday, when five AU employees lost their jobs in what’s been billed as a cost-saving measure.

AU Interim President Ed Richardson called upon administrators last month to recommend cuts in their departments, and those suggestions spelled troubling news for a handful on the Plains.

Bob Lowry, editor in AU’s office of Communications and Marketing, was among those told their positions would be eliminated. He saw the handwriting on the wall months ago. Since Richardson fired Betty DeMent as vice president of alumni affairs in March, Richardson has proclaimed his ongoing string of firings was far from over.

“Absolutely, (it’s) created a culture of fear,” Lowry said. “This supposedly is about reorganization and budgetary problems, but where’s the hiring freezes? Raises will be given this year. There are no restrictions on travel ... The education budget is going to be increased.”

Lowry, who’s been with AU for 14 years, charges there may be something more nefarious at play than an administrative shuffle. Richardson has stated the need to cut fat at AU while bringing on a new construction consultant, a new attorney and a new firm to conduct polling for the university. The mixed signals have Lowry convinced these firings are more about old scores than fiscal prudence.

“I think there’s people being targeted,” Lowry said. “You can start with Betty DeMent and go down the list.”

Here are some other articles about Auburn written by Bob Lowry... 


[ Parent ]
I'm just saying, that the number one job of any university president is to bring in (0.00 / 0)

research money and grants, and if President Gogue is bringing in far more money for the university by flying on one of the two airplanes owned by Auburn University, then I'd say he is making a good business decision and one greatly beneficial to Auburn and the alabama taxpayer.

If the planes are sitting idle at the Auburn (Non Commercial) Airport, why not use one of them? If the university can reduce the fixed cost of the planes by spreading the cost over many occurrences of fund raising, I say War Damn Eagle!!!

Those figures Lowry posted just don't mean anything unless they compared the cost vs. the benefit realized....and he hasn't done that.  Maybe UAT is laying off 1000 employees cause they aren't fully utilizing their plane and doing enough fund raising?

If Lowry wants to do a comparision, maybe he needs to compare the total cost of the planes using athletic and academic data?  And how the planes, and costs associated with them are determined when looking at both athletic and academic users.  

 

 



[ Parent ]
But the planes don't belong to the University (0.00 / 0)

If the university can reduce the fixed cost of the planes by spreading the cost over many occurrences of fund raising, I say War Damn Eagle!!!

The planes are owned by Tigers Unlimited, a private athletic foundation, and the University pays the foundation when they use the planes. So liberal use of the planes may help the foundation, but does nothing for Auburn's fixed costs.

I have no problem with the planes being used for legitimate purposes.  But I've yet to see any justification for flying to Birmingham at $2k/flight, for a trip to Tunica, for the plane being used to transport Gogue's wife around, or to fly trustees and their families to and from Hilton Head, etc.

I also think it would be a good idea for people to separate this issue from their football loyalties. 

Bottom line for me is that this is an issue of good stewardship money, be it taxpayer, tuition, or donations.  At a time when tuition is going through the roof, state funding is down, and the PACT is in trouble, Auburn's loose pockets are an issue.  $10k private jet flights to DC and $3,000 flights to pick up a trustee and FLY him 65 miles away to make a speech seem to fly in the face of complaints about funding problems.

These guys and gals appear to be living the high life on Auburn's dime.  If that's not true, surely the university can come up with a better explanation than the lame "time change" excuse offered so far.



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[ Parent ]
University cutbacks (4.00 / 1)
As you pointed out, the University of Alabama wasn't using (abusing?) these private flights as much as Auburn, but it's worth noting that the UA system anticipates cutting 1000 employees over the next 18 months due to budget problems. 

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Thanks for that link. (4.00 / 1)

I meant to include it in the post, but forgot!

Yes, the UA system gave a pretty grim scenario last week.  I have a couple of friends who teach and/or research at UAH, and I've been picking their brains about the situation.  It'll make an interesting blog post if I can write it without getting them in trouble with the university.



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University cutbacks (4.00 / 1)
It's going to get really interesting if Auburn announces similar cutbacks, with the half million private plane expenditures hanging over their heads.

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Sickening.... (4.00 / 2)
This is just ridiculous!!!

My 8-year-old could come up with a better excuse than the pathetic time zone excuse.  What an insult to people's intelligence!!!


is this (4.00 / 1)
the same bob lowry who was let go from auburn a few years ago?

no idea (4.00 / 1)

I don't follow Auburn's hiring and firing news.

However, I do think that if anyone wants to refute his article, they need to come up with something better than "disgruntled former employee."

Unless someone has evidence that Bob Lowry falsified the college's aircraft logs or in some other way played with the facts, then the "former employee" thing doesn't tip the scale against half a million in private jet flights - some between Auburn and Birmingham for goodness sake.  Or to and from  Tunica.

Not in my book, anyway.



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First I've heard of it (4.00 / 1)

But I don't follow Auburn news at all closely.  Even if it is the same Bob Lowry, he surely didn't make up the flight information or the statement from the Auburn spokesperson.

Something no one has really emphasized is that these planes (for both AU and UA) are owned by the schools' athletic associations so every time a university employee or official uses the plane, money get's transferred from the university proper to the athletic association.  That's awfully close to subsidizing athletics at the expense of academics.  The standard line is that those big ticket athletic programs bring money in to their schools, however the plane junkets seem to be sending money the other way.



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[ Parent ]
I think the Huntsville Times writer (4.00 / 1)
Is actually named Bob Lowery.

"The War in Iraq is not the disease. The War in Iraq is a symptom. Arrogance is the disease" - Bill Richardson

[ Parent ]
No, it's "Lowry" (4.00 / 1)
at least according to his byline in the Times.  I had to check it a couple of times while blogging last week, but the spelling seems odd to me.

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I see on other blogs and message boards (4.00 / 1)

that the Auburn defensive team is suiting up!

According to them, this story:

1. Means nothing. The paper just needs something to write about before football season.

2. Is a set up by a vengeful reporter - who Auburn's spokesman seemed happy to talk with.

3. Means nothing.  The trustees deserve those plane flights because of all the money they give to the university - $10-20 million a year!  EACH.

Anybody know if that last is true?  Because if they're that loaded, my response is that they should fly their own damn planes and not stick Auburn with the cost.

No sympathy from me for any of these defensive manuevers.  And I bet that not many Auburn tuition-paying parents will have much either.



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Long time 'til football season (4.00 / 1)
I like the first one.  If the papers need to do investigative journalism -- or at least fact filled stories -- to fill space until football season, we're in for several months of interesting, conversation provoking, dare I say it, journalism.

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[ Parent ]
Question (4.00 / 2)
Are the trustees of UA and AU paid for thier service?

"The War in Iraq is not the disease. The War in Iraq is a symptom. Arrogance is the disease" - Bill Richardson

I don't think so - but anything is possible. (4.00 / 1)

The only reference I can find in the Alabama code about payments is that trustees can have their expenses reimbursed.  It seems that most university trustee groups are not paid, but "receive significant perks."  That last is from an article about Nebraska.

I did find this about salaries of university presidents in Alabama

Auburn University President Jay Gogue, University of Alabama at Birmingham President Carol Garrison, University of Alabama President Robert Witt among highest paid four-year college presidents in U.S.

Auburn University's Jay Gogue earned more than $725,000 in total compensation last year, ranking him first among presidents of Alabama colleges and 12th nationally.

University of Alabama at Birmingham President Carol Garrison and University of Alabama President Robert Witt were tied for 24th nationally, each earning just over $604,000 last year. The average total compensation for presidents of 184 public four-year schools and university systems nationwide was $461,000, according to an analysis of Chronicle data.

They get houses and cars provided too.  And, it appears... airplanes.

From the Tuscaloosa News:

At Auburn University, President Jay Gogue also works under a multi-year contract, but his pay is $450,000 annually in the five-year contract signed in 2007. If he is still president in 2012, Gogue would get $1.25 million in deferred salary. Auburn did not raise salaries for employees this year.

 

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[ Parent ]
WOW! (4.00 / 1)
With salaries like that these folks should not be traveling to Mardi Gras on the public dime.  Have they no shame at all? 

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Way Back in Time (4.00 / 1)

In a previous lifetime almost ( 15yrs) , I used to take occasional trips to KSC and Washington D.C on the corporate Hawker 800. Nice aircraft -500mph - teak interior - CD player for each triple wide fully reclining seat and a stocked wet bar. Took about an hour and a half to get to either place. The aircraft was billed out from corporate to the different organizations in the company at ~$1200 per hour. If you had four or five people going to a day-meeting it was a real money and time saver.

Assuming that the costs to operate such an aircraft are higher now, then the $5.00 per mile is probably about right, and the $3.50 per mile charge is a real deal for the use of these aircraft today.

So,  I'm not so sure that the universities are actually subsidizing the atheletic programs. It may actually be the other way around.



That's great - if they're using it for official university business (0.00 / 0)

and unanticipated trips that would be incredibly expensive at walk up fare or business rates on commercial flights.

But a lot of this stuff sounds to me like it's the "junket jet" for the trustees and their families.  That's my problem with it.



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Editor of the Anniston Star weighs in (0.00 / 0)

Fly Them to the Moon

And, we’d add, no commercial flights between Dothan and Andalusia exist. That’s the 65-mile distance flown in an Auburn jet by AU trustee James Rane to get to a May 2008 speaking engagement. The pricetag: $3,213.

Costs associated with college are rising. Taxpayer revenue to support higher ed is falling. A state fund set up to help parents save for college is in serious trouble.

The point seems to be that tooling around on a university jet on the state’s dime is a perk that looks distinctly out of touch with today’s economic downturn.

What Bob Davis said.



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