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Amazon, Chick-Fil-A & GLBT Issues: Do Boycotts Really Mattter?

by: countrycat

Mon Jul 30, 2012 at 07:00:00 AM CDT


Whether you're an ardent fan of "Eat More Chikin," order all your reading material from Amazon, or just use Facebook... you know that some large American corporations have joined the culture wars.  And the rhetoric is as hot as the oil used to fry chicken.

When the news reported that Chick-Fil-A's corporate charitable arm gave about $5 million to various anti-gay organizations in the past few year, a Christian food fight promptly broke out.  One side called for boycotts & "kiss-ins on Aug. 3."  Meanwhile, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee called for "Chick-Fil-A Day."

Not long after, news broke that Amazon founder, Jeff Bezos & his wife, Mackenzie, donated $2.5 million to the Washington State marriage equality campaign.  Their donation will help counter large out-of-state donations from groups like the National Organization for Marriage and ahem the Mormon Church.

Cue the boycott calls....

But is all of this rhetoric creating more heat than light?  In a national, even international economy.... does a boycott actually matter?  On a small scale, yes.  Some Individual Chick-Fil-A franchise owners are frantically trying to stay neutral And in a particular community, a determined boycott of a small, local business surely matters. But nationally?  Maybe not so much.

That doesn't mean though that all the publicity surrounding the Chick-Fil-A contributions is having no effect. It's interesting that Mooncat, Daddycat, & I were just talking about this issue with Jim Dean of Democracy for America less than a month ago.

He was in Alabama to help coordinate the DFA training in Birmingham earlier this month and met with the 3 of us for lunch on Friday before the training. I can't remember how the subject came up, but the discussion touched on the uproar over Target's donations to at least one anti-gay candidate.

Dean made a very salient point - that I'll paraphrase here:

When you're dealing with huge corporations, it's almost impossible for a consumer boycott to affect them in any meaningful way. They're just too large.

But where we can have an effect is in publicity.  What happened with Target wasn't that they saw an impact on their bottom line, but that the corporate officers and board of directors started getting flack from family and friends.

These guys don't care if you buy your shoelaces somewhere else.  But they do care if they're at the country club and somebody whose son or daughter has just come out challenges them about their corporate policies.

That's why we make a big deal of this stuff.  Even in a global market, the personal interactions and bad publicity still matter and that's the way we can change policy.

My apologies to Jim if I've gotten the substance wrong, but I'm pretty sure about my recollection....

So I'm not actively boycotting Chick-Fil-A - that would be difficult since I don't eat chicken anyway.  But what I can do is pass along this great essay from Conor Gaughan, published at the Huffington Post: We Are Not Arguing Over Chicken

Facebook can feel faceless sometimes. Over the last week, the site has seen a lot of conversations about Chick-fil-A, often among total strangers able to shout at each other just because they happen to have a friend in common. It is worth remembering that behind each unfamiliar headshot or puppy pic is a real person. When you litter your friend's wall with vitriol about the idiocy of your interlocutors, you are talking about people, not pixels.

So here's my message to social conservatives: Just because you were a member of the Boy Scouts, I don't think you are a bigot. Have those waffle fries; I'm not going to glitter-bomb you. But please, hear me out on why these organizations are so troubling to me, personally. Let's get beyond the avatar, so we can understand that this is more about people than about anonymous wall posts.

I was watching a movie this afternoon and an FBI agent had been captured by the "bad guys."  She kept talking to them and telling them about her childhood, asking about their lives, etc.  Irritated, one of them asked her why she wouldn't shut up.

"I think that the more you know me as a person, the less likely you are to kill me."

I certainly don't use this example to suggest that anyone opposed to marriage equality wants to kill anyone.  But it does illustrate the essential truth that the more you see others as people - with lives, jobs, and families just like you - the less likely you are to view them as "the enemy."

In that case, you're more open to other experiences and understand that most people want the same things for themselves & their families - peace, love, security, and understanding... to name just a few.

My experience as been that the people most supportive of GLBT equality are those who have personal friends and/or relatives who they know are gay.  The most anti-gay people are those who swear that they "don't know anyone who's queer!"  Yeah.  Right.

The best way to achieve equality is, of course, for everyone to come out of the closet!!

Unfortunately, it's a "chicken or the egg" kind of thing.  If it were safe to be "out," then everyone would be open about their sexuality.  Since it's still legal in 29 states to fire someone just for being gay and gay teens are 4 times more likely to attempt suicide, then surprise! many people try to keep something very, very important a deep dark secret.

The biggest impact on public opinion, IMO, happens when there are big, national dialogues and public votes on the issue.  Because those big issues mean that people talk with each other - national issues become very personal when individual lives and civil liberties are at stake.

For that reason, I'm very glad that Amazon & Chick-Fil-A are in the news.  For whatever reasons, they're encouraging us to talk frankly and be honest with each other.  The conversations may not be very much fun, but we need to have them nonetheless.

And if you know anyone on the Amazon or Chick-Fil-A boards of directors, please make your opinions clear!   :-)

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I'm avoiding Chick-fil-A, not because I am part of a boycott, but because I don't personally feel comfortable giving money to the company.  In light of what I've learned about the company and the way it operates, I can't imagine enjoying my meal.  Chick-fil-A is not going to go bankrupt or be motivated to change their ways based on my decision, but I'll feel better about my own choices.

I am not avoiding Chick-fil-A because Dan Cathy is a bigot, but because he imposes his bigotry on the company.  He expects his employees to be missionaries, he encourages interview questions that are impertinent if not explicitly illegal (such as inquiring about marital status), he expects franchises to be run according to "biblical principles".  Note that none of this has to do with how Chick-fil-A treats customers, but rather about imposing religious views on employees.

And his company sends corporate funds to anti-gay organizations, let's not forget that.

This last is important.  As great as I think Jeff Bezos' donation is, I note that it is, properly, his personal donation, not a corporate donation.  What Bezos does with his own money is his own business.  If Cathy were donating his own money to anti-gay groups, rather than corporate funds, I'd have many fewer qualms.  I don't inquire of the plumber what he's going to do with the fee I pay him.

One other point I'll make, regarding Chick-fil-A and their closing on Sunday.  There are millions of businesses that close on Sunday.  Most indicate they are doing so simply by having a sign that says "Sunday: closed" amid the hours of operation, or perhaps "closed Sundays".  Very few make a self-righteous announcement about how they want their employees to spend time with their families; almost none, other than Chick-fil-A, add the comment about "and worship if they choose".  Most stores that are open on Sundays don't actually force their employees to work instead of going to worship; people seem to manage.  I'm sure the Jewish, Muslim, and Seventh Day Adventist employees are very happy that Chick-fil-A is open on their day of worship and closed on a day they are available to work.  We are supposed to be impressed at how thoughtful and caring Chick-fil-A is for closing on Sundays, but all I see is self-righteousness and assumption of universal Christianity.  What's next?  A sign saying "We close at night so our employees can go home and have a refreshing night's sleep, spend time with their families, and pray if they so choose"?


I haven't darkened the door of a Chik Fil A in roughly 30 years (4.00 / 1)

After not one but two experiences of my fellow diners finding hair (not one or two, but lots) in sandwiches. I literally don't care what days they're open, the gross factor is such that I'd fast rather than eat there.

And while I've been personally boycotting this company for decades, until now I've never publicly mentioned why. They've probably cleaned up their kitchens, but it sounds like they still need to work on cleaning their (corporate) hearts and minds.



Work harder and work smarter!

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Certainly, you shouldn't spend your money (4.00 / 1)

in ways that make you uncomfortable.  A budget - household or national - is a statement of values and how someone spends their dollars matter.

Personally, I never shop at Wal-Mart, but I don't even kid myself that they miss my money.  :-)

Boycott calls may not hurt the bottom line of large corporations at all. But the news stories of the boycott calls & pickets, etc. perform a very valuable PR function - in a negative way.

Each news story contains (or should contain) an explanation of why people are calling for a boycott.  It gets the story out to the general public, gets people talking, and helps put social pressure on the people at the top who are making decisions.

The boycott is a step in that process, but it's not the only piece of the puzzle; it's just what sets the entire process in motion.



"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."  - John Kenneth Galbraith




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