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Election Day Winners & Losers - Alabama Edition

by: countrycat

Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 09:47:57 AM CDT


The commercials are over, the ballots are cast, and the victory party confetti has been vacuumed up off numerous hotel ballrooms.  Now that the dust has settled, let's consider who won and who lost yesterday.  Not in terms of candidates per se, but in general:

Sad Blue DogWinner: Paul Hubbert. He managed to get both his preferred candidates for governor through the primary and runoff.

Loser:  Paul Hubbert. He watched as many of AEA's most powerful alies in the Legislature were replaced in implacable AEA foes.

Loser: Gambling interests.  They bet the farm on Ron Sparks and Democratic legislators. 

Winner: Matrix & Joe Perkins.  This powerful, abeit shadowy campaign consulting firm works for candidates in both parties.  No matter who loses, Matrix wins.

Loser:  Rural Conservative Democrats with political beliefs just one tiny step to the left of the Dixiecrats.  Their (mostly Matrixx-run) campaigns were abysmal spectacles that ran from the Democratic party, used the word "liberal" as an epithet, and tried to out-Republican their GOP opponents.  Sorry guys, voters will go for authenticity every time.  You lost your base of supporters by chasing after votes that weren't going to go to you anyway.  Your giant miscalculation turned what might have been close races into genuine "ass-whippings."  I can't even feel sympathy for you.

Winner:  Ethics reform.  The chief impediment to, well, virtually any bill passing the Alabama Senate - former Rules Committee Chair Lowell Barron - lost his seat yesterday.  The GOP has promised to make Ethics Reform a priority.  They'd better.

Loser:  Constitution reform.  We lost several prominent reform proponents last night.  What are the chances that newly-elected Republicans will be any more likely to give up the Legislatures control over local issues?  Pretty much nil.  It's just human nature. 

Winner:  Artur Davis. He warned the party over and over that they were headed over the cliff unless they got serious about reform. What did truth-telling get him?  Implacable resistance from AEA, ADC, and others in a nasty race-baiting primary that tarnished this state for a generation.  I'm betting he's enjoying a nice hot cup of schadenfreude this morning.

Loser: The prognosticators who confidently predicted that Ron Sparks was "the only candidate" who could attract both black voters and rural whites.  As I recall, he was "the only one who could save the Legislature."  Maybe it's time to stop treating rural white voters as ignorant doofuses with a KKK robe in one hand and the neck of some hapless Mexican immigrant in the other.  It's damned patronizing and offensive.

Winner: PACT parents & students.  They have a supporter in the governor's mansion.  Although nobody knows how this new Legislature will view the issue, how the program will survive continuing tuition increases, or lawsuits.

Loser: The ADP's "Big Mules" who don't seem to understand that the 1960's are over.  You can't win simply by running on the Democratic ticket guys.  You had a generation to reform state government, fix education, generate real economic development that supported local communities and small businesses, and make Alabama a state to admire, not ridicule.  Instead, we got inaction, corruption, and "return to the cotton fields" rhetoric.

Winner:  New leaders for the ADP.  They have an opening.  With this devastating defeat of the Old Guard, we have the opportunity to start rebuilding from the bottom up. We can start with new, young, reform-minded leaders like Greg Varner, Scott Gilliland, Joe Hubbard, Jeremy Sherer, Michel Nicrosi, and others.  The ADP's "bench" of up and coming leaders is painfully thin because we've had the same group in control for decades.  Time to give it up, boys.  Your time has gone.

The bright spots... such as they are.... are on the flip.

 

countrycat :: Election Day Winners & Losers - Alabama Edition

I should be totally depressed by the election results.  Once the Legislature convenes and starts pushing craziness like voting to opt out of health care reform (Although remember: every white Democrat in the Alabama Senate already did that last year. Worked out well for them, didn't it?) or criminalize all abortions, then the game will get serious.  As it is, I am moderately dispirited, but there's a bright spot.

With a loss of this magnitude comes opportunity.  We have a chance to start building a party that represents the citizens of Alabama and talks about issues that affect people in their daily lives. Stuff like:

  • Strengthening local communities and community businesses. Paying hundreds of millions to lure big business doesn't help the businesses already here.
  • Expecting a more transparent, ethical state government. 
  • Reforming education so children leave the public schools with a real education - not just the ability to memorize facts to pass a standardized test.
  • Addressing the looming health care crisis that's coming at us because so many Alabamians (young and old) suffer from obesity and obesity-related diseases.
  • Talking to voters like they're grown ups.  None of these problems have easy solutions.  Start offering real solutions instead of political talking points and fear-based rhetoric.

The elections handed Alabama Democrats a pile of lemons.  It's up to us to start making them into lemonade. 

Who are your winners and losers?  Surely I've forgotten a couple!

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Just realized I left out a big winner (4.00 / 1)

The people of the 7th district who elected Alabama's first Congresswoman to win a general election.

She's our lone Democrat in our Congressional delegation.  Send her good thoughts; she's going to need them.



There are no "safe" Republican districts. You can run but you can't hide.  - Rahm Emmanuel



and... (4.00 / 1)

An actual progressive who will vote for the interests of her constituents.

I have to disagree with the idea that Artur Davis could be considered a winner in this election after how he behaved over the past month.  His political career in Alabama is over.

Frankly, if he wins via schadenfreude then that's a sign that he never cared about the progressive cause.  The good candidates lost right along with the bad ones last night, and they weren't helped by Artur Davis' "I told you so" October.  It was childish, and overall it lost him support.

Artur Davis' ideas and his reform platform might have been vindicated last night, but thanks to his poisonous behavior over the past month, I would say he's left out in the cold.

Also, I really doubt that ethics reform was actually a winner last night.  I get the point about Lowell Barron, but I seriously, serisouly doubt the new leadership will be any better.  In the long run, this might turn out to be a win for ethics reform, but in the short run it's a wash at best.



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excellent essay (4.00 / 2)
countrycat's post election essay is excellent. probably wont make a dent in some political egos, but it says what needed to be said.

More... (0.00 / 0)

Winner: Dale Jackson - Massive GOP pickups = Kingmaker!

Loser: Dale Jackson - Massive GOP pickup = Fewer bad guy.

Winner: Left in Alabama - Massive GOP pickups = More GOP legislation to compain about. But you will need to do better than this...

Once the Legislature convenes and starts pushing craziness like voting to opt out of health care reform (Although remember: every white Democrat in the Alabama Senate already did that last year. Worked out well for them, didn't it?) or criminalize all abortions, then the game will get serious.

Loser: Left in Alabama - Massive GOP pickup = broken Democratic Party

 



Do better.

Dale, I have to say you were right - mooncat

You're an entertainer son! -Parker Griffith


Now Dale.... (0.00 / 0)
you're going to get us in trouble with King Cockfight!

There are no "safe" Republican districts. You can run but you can't hide.  - Rahm Emmanuel



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Winner (4.00 / 3)
Joe Hubbard, in a formerly "leans GOP" district.

Greg Varner came so close (4.00 / 1)
310 votes!  Provisionals are yet to be counted, but it looks like a very close loss.  And a loss for the whole state.

There are no "safe" Republican districts. You can run but you can't hide.  - Rahm Emmanuel



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Recount for Varner? (4.00 / 1)
Is it possible for him to request a recount?

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I think it's an automatic trigger (0.00 / 0)
Either it's close enough for a recount or it isn't and I'm not sure the candidate has any choice in the matter.  Possibly he could decline, but thinking back to 2002 I don't think he could ask for a recount if the totals didn't hit the trigger.

Work harder and work smarter!

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99% percent in agreement with your post. My disagreement is (4.00 / 3)

"Maybe it's time to stop treating rural white voters as ignorant doofuses with a KKK robe in one hand and the neck of some hapless Mexican immigrant in the other."  

I don't think they're treating voters as described above, I think they're thousands of voter who do think like this (and they aren't all rural folks by any means).  If voters didn't think like this, they wouldn't buy into the rabid, fear mongering rhetoric.  If voters didn't think like this, these kind of candidates wouldn't win. 



These voters exist (4.00 / 1)

But they aren't all racists ... here's where my spirit of X-tian charity enters into things ... some of these people are simply timid and fearful of new things.  And once fear gets a grip on them, their better angels fly out the window. 

The answer is to somehow reassure them that these people (black, brown, whatever) are not trying to take whatever they and their children have worked for, they are not in danger.  Calm their fears somehow instead of condemning them for being fearful and irrational.  It's a delicate dance.



Work harder and work smarter!

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This will be the title of a future diary on this site...It's also time for Democrats to create a metro area strategy (4.00 / 2)
What I mean by this, focus on winning the metropolitan areas (central city and suburbs).  That means finding actual candidates to be placed on the ballot in areas where lately nobody has campaigned against the suburban Republican.  For the time being, it might be wise to leave the rural areas the hell alone since besides the Black Belt areas, it doesn't seem to be working since one too many resident harbor resentment to Democrats because of integration. 

"Hypocrites are those whom pick and choose prejudices while giving accolades for their own..."

"It is what it is."  

http://blkindependent.blogspot...


2012 potential winners and losers (0.00 / 0)

2012 winner: Republicans or Dems?

I think that the Republicans will win big again by recapturing the White House and Majority of Senate if; Republicans show a willingness to satisfy both spectrums of voters with repeal of current healthcare reform and replace it with a better business concious model. Repealing healthcare and replacing it with nothing is a myth. Bohenor and a lot of Tea Party candidates like Rand Paul have stated that they want to improve healthcare for everyone. Lets see what they do. Again, they will have to deliver through compromise or Obama will veto anything other than something similar to what is currently on the table.

Republicans have backed themselves into a corner with promises made to "Never return to the Republican conduct of 2000-2006". Statements like, "We have learned our lesson when we were kicked out of control four years ago". If Republicans stay consistent with holding the line on traditional conservative values, or at least the appearance thereof, they will win big again in 2012.

Republicans will win big in 2012 if they can keep the Tea Party sentiment right where it is. The Tea Part was a tool for conservative/libertarian/independent/moderate consolidation in 2010. If the Republicans let the Tea Party further define itself as a seperate entity or party, then a disasterous split vote will prevent Republican party progress in 2012.

Democrats will win big in 2012 by re-taking the House and re-electing President Obama if; Democrats show ability to work with a Republican majority in the house to construct better legislation. That would mean giving concessions in Republican concerns over healthcare, cap & trade, spending freezes (osterity measures) and extending the bush era tax laws.

Democrats will win big in 2012 if the Republicans didn't get the hint "America doesnt care about a Liberal or Conservative agenda, but more about fixing the economy and decreasing the deficit". Republicans were voted back into majority in the house in 2010 by people who wanted action now, not later. If Democrats can be percieved as the party which has fixed the economy, decreased spending and improved prosperity, then they will have an easy go in 2012.

Democrats will win big in 2012 if the Tea Party loses steam and becomes a disorganized rabble, or if the Tea Party picks up steam and becomes a seperate party all together. In either situation, the Tea Party can be disasterous for the Republicans in 2012. Karl Rove and a host of other Republican leadership cringe at the thought of a Palin run for President in 2012. While they appreciate her "firing up the base", Palin is seen as a weak Presidential candidate with holding a current approval rating of 22% from recent polling among self described Republicans.

The citizens of the U.S. will win big in 2012 if; Democrats and Republicans actually understand what the vote in 2006, 2008 and 2010 really meant. The Tidal Wave vote that led to swaps of party power are becoming frequent and more massive. Citizens are tired of gridlock and inaction by the Congress. Citizens are scared. Not of Muslims, but of Bankrupcy. Citizens are scared, not because Republicans made them scared, but because we see businesses closing all around us. Citizens are scared, not because they are worried about healthcare, but because they are worried about how to pay the light bill next month. All the while, Democrats and Republicans are hammering away at the polar ends of the spectrum while the only common ground can be found in that they disagree on everything. Citizens will win big if Democrats and Republicans can lay sensitive issues to the side and work on legislation where there is consensus and some chance of success. Citizens will win big if party labels somehow become less important in consideration of the candidate.



I think it better to do right, even if we suffer in so doing, than to incur the reproach of our consciences and posterity.
Robert E. Lee  


I'll have to disagree (0.00 / 0)

The healthcare reform legislation is fine and there is nothing wrong with it as since current model is the most business friendly model that would include the uninsured.  Think Medicare Part D, and the plethora of problems associated with it mainly thanks to its business friendliness.  The Republicans plan on repealing it because most Republicans doesn't believe individuals citizens deserved the right to adequate health care. 

Look at the access to healthcare in non-urban counties in Alabama as an example of this.  Some people have to travel nearly 50 miles to indigent treatment for their health.  Also look at the attempt by many in Jefferson County to get rid of Cooper Green because it is a public hospital and clinic, but nearly 40% of the county constituency is uninsured nor can't afford health insurance.

The Bush-era tax cuts should end and stay that way.  Obama will veto any attempts to extend them.  There isn't enough votes in the 2 houses of Congress to override his veto even now.  

You might want to read up on Rand Paul, three words, aversive racist a& pseudo-libertarian.  He doesn't care about healthcare at all nor does his father.  Pseudo-libertarians aren't interested providing health care because like authentic libertarians, they don't believe in gov't. involvement in anything social welfare oriented.  So I wouldn't hold my breath on him being for health care initiatives. 

2012 elections isn't going to be about anything besides the economy and how further along it will comes in recovery.  I doubt Republicans are going to be able to win back the presidency since they have shown they aren't trying to engage youth voters (you know the future) with any issues. Currently the only contenders in the GOP circles are Palin, Steven Hoyer, and handful others I can't name off the top of my head.  The point is they aren't going to be able to take down Obama because that man knows how to do one thing that is campaign for himself.  

The House will likely flip back not for partisan reasons rather because there will likely be a deadlock on the vindictive nature of the Republican leadership of John Boehner.  (Look up Boehner's track history and you would know what type of politico he is).  He won't be any better of a Speaker of the House than Peloisi because both of them are vindictive individuals.  

The Senate will likely stay as is as well because the momentum of the Republicans will likely be temporary.  However, I wouldn't rule out there being more independents winning senatorial races in 2012.  2012 will be the year of a number of independent candidate wins in some interesting places.  

To sum it up on 2012, the T.E.A. party and their antics will be short-lived because the GOP establishment is already trying to marginalize them as we speak (and was as early as a few weeks ago from my knowledge).  It will be an election on whom can prove they are better leaders for getting the economy back on track.  Also passing off inflated and economically unsound policies like upper-income tax cuts will likely cause it only stagger rather than turn around.  The partisanship of the elections will be even worse, but the tables will be there for both parties to be place under the microscope for judgment now with a Republican led-House.  

On your earlier comment on Bright, he wasn't a moderate at all.  A moderate is one whom is neither liberal or conservative, and Bright was a conservative.  He isn't an example of a moderate.  Artur Davis was more of an example of a true moderate, but he won't be apart of the fold anymore although ironically he is originally from Montgomery.  Moderates weren't playing any attention to the T.E.A. party antics nor were there wooed by the extremist stances of many within that fold.  

 

 



"Hypocrites are those whom pick and choose prejudices while giving accolades for their own..."

"It is what it is."  

http://blkindependent.blogspot...


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Another thing to watch out for in 2012 is demographic shifts (4.00 / 2)

That is the problem with the Republicans is their demographic shifts of this nation.  We live in a changing society where only pedaling towards interest of middle-age to older whites is only going to get you so far.  The age and racial/ethnic shifts amongst younger Americans is translating to a problem for them and will only grow as time goes by.  Mark Rubio, Nikki Haley, and Tim Scott are exceptions to the rule.  Most younger voters aren't socially conservative, tends to be more egalitarian on most social issues, and tends to be from a racially and ethnically diverse background.  As this age group comes of age, the GOP needs to either include them or engage their issues or watch their strategy go off a cliff in the next few years due to dying out of older generations. 

One other thing most don't realize, midterm elections are almost never good at attracting the attention of younger voters, but 2012 is a presidential elections are whole other animal...



"Hypocrites are those whom pick and choose prejudices while giving accolades for their own..."

"It is what it is."  

http://blkindependent.blogspot...


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It happened this year, but turnout wasn't high enough (4.00 / 2)

Enjoy it while it lasts, GOP.....

National exit polls of more than 17,000 voters show a remarkable trend: Adults age 18-29 voted against the Republican Tsunami by 16 points (56-40). Younger adults age 18-24 were even more progressive, voting against Republicans by 19 points (58-39). The exit polls, conducted by Edison Research in association with AP and CNN found that:

  • 18-29-year-olds voted for Democrats over Republicans by 16 points (56-40) with 4% responding: "Other/No answer"
  • 18-24-year-olds voted for Democrats over Republicans by 19 points (58-39) with 3% responding: "Other/No answer"

These are remarkable numbers for a couple of reasons. First, the sample size of the poll was 17,506 respondents, chosen based on scientifically-randomized methodology, so the numbers are likely to be fairly robust.

Second, young adult voters withstood a Republican "Tsunami" election and voted roughly 19-37 points more progressively than older age demographics, against the backdrop of a highly-polarized Republican-leaning political environment.

Ahhhh.... them young folks.... I knew I loved 'em!!!



There are no "safe" Republican districts. You can run but you can't hide.  - Rahm Emmanuel



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This is part of what happened to Alabama Democrats (4.00 / 1)
I remember looking through GOTV data a few years back and being amazed at how many of the voters we were contacting were over 80.  You don't need much imagination to realize that those folks won't be reliable voters for too many more years.  And there weren't many twenty-somethings on the contact lists.  We were right in there with where the national GOP is now.  I think Alabama is running 10 to 15 years behind national trends.

Work harder and work smarter!

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William Barnes is a winner (4.00 / 1)
He didn't win his election, but the number of votes he did receive despite the obstacles his campaign faced should be considered a win.

Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle. (Thomas Jefferson)

Moral victories are for losers. (0.00 / 0)


Do better.

Dale, I have to say you were right - mooncat

You're an entertainer son! -Parker Griffith


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Only if one choses to perceive it that way (0.00 / 0)


The 2011 surface temperatures (World Temperature) was 0.51°C (0.92°F) above the 20th century average. This marks the 35th consecutive year, since 1976, that the yearly global temperature was above average. - N.O.A.A.

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gotta disagree on a few things... (4.00 / 1)

Winner:  Ethics reform.  The chief impediment to, well, virtually any bill passing the Alabama Senate - former Rules Committee Chair Lowell Barron - lost his seat yesterday.  The GOP has promised to make Ethics Reform a priority.  They'd better.

...

Winner: PACT parents & students.  They have a supporter in the governor's mansion.  Although nobody knows how this new Legislature will view the issue, how the program will survive continuing tuition increases, or lawsuits.

As I pointed out in another post...  The GOP actions tell an entirely different story from that.  While running on a platform of ethics reform and banning PAC-to-PAC transfers, one of the biggest and most negative campaigns was against the author of PAC-to-PAC legislation who didn't accept special interest money, and they beat him while using a great deal of Republican PAC-to-PAC money.  And I'm very suspicious of an 11th hour attempt to discredit him regarding his promise to not accept campaign donations.

And I'm rather suspicious of any state GOP support of PACT parents & students.  Consider Kay Ivey's initial handling of the situation and the response from certain GOP media toadies.  That doesn't necessarily tell a story of these people being "winners" by any stretch.



Nice oversimplification... (0.00 / 0)


Do better.

Dale, I have to say you were right - mooncat

You're an entertainer son! -Parker Griffith


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It is what you said, is it not? (0.00 / 0)
If it's oversimplification, then the culprit would be you, not me.

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I quoted it didn't I? (0.00 / 0)
I just explained what I meant, i wasn't arguing the point. I was pointing out the context. Feel free to address that.

Do better.

Dale, I have to say you were right - mooncat

You're an entertainer son! -Parker Griffith


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What is there to address? (4.00 / 1)

You did in fact compare PACT parents to "welfare queens".  The context you gave doesn't add anything really or change the meaning of what you said in any way.  And it doesn't in any way justify it-- especially considering that the senatorial candidate that you personally endorsed pushed for Wall Street bailouts under the exact same economic collapse.

As to your complaint of oversimplification...  You've been doing it for as long as you've been on the air to attack various policies or support them.  But the irony and humor in all of this is that the only "oversimplification" done here and that you complained about was in fact done by you.



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Can you elaborate? (4.00 / 1)

 "The PACT parents are no different than welfare queens"

 I understand that some people cheat the welfare system. (what I'm guessing you mean as "welfare queens") But PACT was a program designed for concerned parents. No job has ever been safe. Anybody could lose their job for many number of reasons. How can a parent that buys into a program for their child's future (with their hard earned money) be even remotely compared to someone on welfare?

 And a g-note to break a contract? Sounds like a pretty easy way to get rich quick. Lend me a $100 million with the understanding I will pay you back $200 million a few years later. But instead, I pay back $100,001,000 a few years later and live off the interest I screwed you out of for the rest of my life.

 The PACT program could indeed require 20 years of bailouts to survive. But that's only if Alabama remains a poor state. Damn Dale! Your governor, your congress and your senate JUST won two (2) days ago. And your already sure they're going to suck that bad? Rest assured Dale, when/if they do begin to muck it all up, you can hear about it fisrt, here at LiA. The watchcats will be watching. 



The 2011 surface temperatures (World Temperature) was 0.51°C (0.92°F) above the 20th century average. This marks the 35th consecutive year, since 1976, that the yearly global temperature was above average. - N.O.A.A.

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It was a flawed system with tricky contractual language... (0.00 / 0)

But the reality is the contract never guaranteed anything, while the marketing did. The state is to blame here, no question.

The Huntsville Times has a good article describing who was promised what and when.  The program was established in 1990 and the literature at the time stated that “the PACT program guarantees payment of undergraduate instate tuition and mandatory fees.”  Sometime before 2001 the “guarantee” language had been removed.

[...]

When my wife and I were looking to set up college savings for our first daughter in 2002 we looked at both the prepaid program and the 529 investment program.  The 529 is basically like a Roth IRA, you put in after tax dollars now and get to take out untaxed dollars for educational expenses in the future.  The money is yours.  We studied both programs closely; we read the fine print.  Our conclusion was that the PACT was a raw deal.  If the stock market tanked the program wouldn’t be able to meet its obligation.  If the stock market rose like crazy we would merely get our child’s tuition paid for.  In the 529 plan the risks were comparable, but the upside was better because any surplus after tuition was paid for would be ours.  So the two programs had similar downside, but the 529 program had a better upside.  It was a no brainer.

Now I fully expect that parents and powerful people like Davis will apply considerable pressure for the state to bailout PACT participants – even those who were given no guarantee.  That infuriates me.  Like all bailouts it would be the prudent paying for the mistakes of the improvident.  My wife and I studied the literature and made an informed decision.  We knew there were risks with the PACT program and those risks factored into our decision.  Why should one nickel of my tax money go to pay a kid’s tuition because his parents thought the sleek marketing implied a guarantee even when none was given?  I can understand that the people who were given a guarantee have cause to be angry.  Very angry.  But why should the state of Alabama honor a commitment it never made (read on)?

The program never had enough money to cover the liabilities.

The solutions are garbage though... A protracted 20 year series of bailouts is not the answer. The cries to  make them whole could be done without payng all the tuition. Another problem is the idiot Legislature and there failure to put the screws to AU and UAT.



Do better.

Dale, I have to say you were right - mooncat

You're an entertainer son! -Parker Griffith


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Lowell Barron (4.00 / 1)

Major league loser.  In a Democratic crowd today I heard someone say "Well, there are some bright spots.  We got rid of a couple of SOBs." ... Lowell was one of those mentioned and there were no dissenting voices.  That kind of explains the reaction of a number of my neighbors about a week ago when I started warning folks that it looked like the Barron-Shadrack race was going to be seriously close.  They would typically mention that Shadrach didn't appear to be qualified, say they usually undervote that race, but if there was a chance Lowell might actually get beat they had a civic duty to vote for the unqualified guy.

For a man who has been in office almost 30 years, his constituents sure didn't love him.



Work harder and work smarter!

Good on them. Now if my partner would feel that way... (4.00 / 1)

I highly agree with your neighbors.  I'm slightly sad I didn't have an opportunity to send Lowell Barron packing.  I wound up only getting to vote for Tim Mitchell against Clay Scofield.  I'm delighted I got to vote for Scofield against Don "He's One of US" Spurlin. If I had stayed at our old apartment or still lived at home with mom, I would've had to decide between Sanford and Enfinger, a decision I'm glad I wasn't faced with.

I suppose I should be glad I don't live in your district because although my partner is probably more liberal than me in personal belief and is an intelligent guy, he is the very worst kind of yellow dog Democrat and trying to talk him into a few write ins, third parties (turned out there were none on the ballot), or undervotes this cycle he steadfastly insisted that any vote not for a Democrat was a vote for the complete and total Republican agenda.  Granted, if he fully knew how bad Lowell Barron was, I'd hope he'd have made an exception.

I know there are a lot of people who believe as my partner does, and if they truly cannot be moved from that position when it comes to general election votes, then we really, really need to change the hearts and minds of the primary voters and see to it that we put the very best candidates forward. 



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I blame Randy Owens (4.00 / 2)

 When famous celebrities speak out about a candidate, it usually hurts the candidate and the celebrity.

 The Baldwins said they would leave the country if Bush won. That didn't work.

 Chuck Norris said Roy Moore was the best choice for Alabama's governor. Moore didn't get enough votes to staff a Wal-Mart, did he?

 And it sure can't help the celebrity any. Seems like a celebrity would prosper better by keeping his/her vote a secret unless poitical entertainment is their bacon winner. Did Randy Owens get famous singing about Nixon? Kennedy? Reagan? No. Any new Norris movies lately? No. 



The 2011 surface temperatures (World Temperature) was 0.51°C (0.92°F) above the 20th century average. This marks the 35th consecutive year, since 1976, that the yearly global temperature was above average. - N.O.A.A.

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Celebrity Democrats (4.00 / 2)

You've touched on something that I think was one of the factors keeping me away from Democrats and liberals when I was growing up and through my first election cycle.  There are so many celebrities out there whose judgement I would never, ever trust in political matters, and many of them seemed to always favor various liberal causes for the "cool" and "controversial" factors, rather than any genuine belief.

Despite a lot of general ignorance, I think people in general are subconsciously intelligent enough to avoid letting people from their pop culture make their political choices for them.  They'd rather leave that to their "journalists."

Speaking of Chuck Norris, he also couldn't save Mike Huckabee in the Republican primary. 



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