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Charter schools in the news

by: csduke

Sun Dec 06, 2009 at 17:25:25 PM CST


(I would love to see more policy discussions here ... charter schools are a great place to start. - promoted by mooncat)

Adding to the debate regarding charter schools in this state, there are a few op-eds across the state worth noting.  Two of the following are supportive with the third opposing them, and they each bring up some thoughts worth considering

1)  Caroline Novack of the A+ Partnership

Novack, a longtime education leader in this state, makes a strong case for charter schools in Alabama.  She states that the purpose of charters "is to develop successful public school models that increase student learning.  These models can then be replicated in other public schools."  She later points to success that charters have had with poor and minority students, and suggests they can help Alabama continue to work to close the achievement gap.

Novack goes on to point to concerns some have, including those raised here.  One such concern is changing existing private schools into charter schools--some states have prohibited that practice and Alabama should do the same.  Furthermore, charters are not allowed to cream students but must take those who apply or select in a fair manner if there are more applicants than desks.  She also states that many charters are dedicated to serving students with the greatest needs.  Each of these concerns need to be addressed in the laws drawn up to establish charter schools.

She offers her suggestions for things needed to be addressed in a charter school law, including supervision from both local school districts and the state board, with  a spcific focus on struggling students; strong accountability laws; provisions to be flexible; as well as a deliberate expansion plan.  Her final point is worth quoting:

Equitable funding and facilities -- Less successful states have hampered schools by providing lower funding per student than other schools.A+ was organized almost 20 years ago when citizens across the state agreed that students' access to top-notch public schools shouldn't be determined by their zip codes. While good progress has been made, far too many Alabama students still don't have the opportunity they deserve. That's why A+ believes it is time for charter schools in Alabama.

 

2)  Former Congressman Jack Edwards in the Mobile Press-Register

Congressman Edwards, and yes, I know I'm bringing up a Republican (who has been good on the issue of constitutional reform), also makes an arguemnt for charter schools in this state.  He writes this artice from the perspective of a former truste of the SUmmit Charter School in Cashiers, NC.  In his experience, this community greatly supported the school (both summer residents and permanent residents), which improved involvemnet a tother schools as well.  He makes his argument for charters to work in conjunction with all public schools, where charters in communities that want them and that will support them will benefit public education not only for the students of that school, but of all schools in the system.  

3)  Gerald Shirley, Principal of the School of Discovery in Selma, AL

Shirley's editorial makes the argument that charters are not a silver bullet.  He spends over half the piece trying to define charter schools, then raises the points from the Stanford study about charter school performance.  He ends with this argument:


Oftentimes, success stories and reports are fabricated, distorted and can be misleading. When regulations are applied equally to traditional schools and charter schools, then an accurate comparison may be made. The Race to the Top Fund should be channeled to high poverty and rural areas where local sources of funding are limited. The lure of the federal dollar is the driving force of supporters of charter schools.

 

 Some analysis below...

csduke :: Charter schools in the news

As Alabama Possible with the Alabama Poverty Project mentioned yesterday, it is worth having this discussion (check their link for more articles).  My thoughts based on this:

Novack is very effective in addressing some of the objections and issues that must be considered.  Edwards also helps with this, and I raise three of those questions.

1)  Do we allow current private schools to become charters?  We should not.  Current private schools need to remain private.  

2)  Do we intentionally find communities that have a need for charters and place them there, or do we allow them to grow everywhere?  As she argued, we need to be intentional about their location--charters are not the answer everywhere.  However, they can be an answer to assist in specific areas of need.

3)  Finally, do we use charters as a way to go around the traditional public school system in the state, or do charters serve in conjunction with the established system?  My belief is that charters need to work as a component of the local systems, focused on the needs of students in those particular communities.  It is not a silver bullet, but charters can provide opportunities for some students who need it, while also encouraging parents and communities to not only support the charter but all public schools in their area.

In response to Shirley's arguemnt, and my question for those who oppose charter schools (which I might have raised before) is to name other solutions to the educatioanl issues we face.

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I'm still on the fence about charter schools (0.00 / 0)

It seems like there's potential for good results, but the devil really is in the details.

Private schools definitely shouldn't be allowed to switch to charter school status, and there should be limitations/restrictions on the number of charters -- each one should be targeted to a specific need in a community.  The last thing we need is a hundred charter schools springing up haphazardly. 



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Im on the fence too, but I'm not on the fence about the federal money available if we try it. (4.00 / 1)
seems like we have more to gain than to lose.

Charter schools meet hedge funds (0.00 / 0)

Very interesting article from the NYT about hedge fund high flyers helping fund charter schools in poor NYC neighborhoods.

“I think it’s all good and well that these people are finally stepping up to support education,” said Michael Mulgrew, president of the United Federation of Teachers, referring to wealthy hedge funders. “But I would wish they would do it in a more foundational way, a way that would help all the children instead of just a small group.”

So not only do charter schools open the door for additional federal money from the Race to the Top program, they can also attract significant private money, as from these investment professionals in NYC.  This is new money, that wouldn't have otherwise been in the education bucket.  Being on the Board of a charter isn't just a title, they're tasked with raising money for the schools -- schools their own kids don't attend -- and they're succeeding.

In addition to raising money, charter school boards, which also include educators and community activists, evaluate test scores and curriculum approaches, oversee budgets and develop teacher hiring protocol, said James Merriman, chief executive officer of the New York City Center for Charter Schools, a nonprofit group that offers planning and grants to those thinking of starting a school.

“It takes a lot more time and energy that being on the junior committee of an art museum,” he said.

The workload didn’t scare off Robert Reffkin, 30, a vice president in the private equity department of Goldman Sachs who is chairman of the board of the Success Charter Network’s newest school, scheduled to open in the Bronx this summer pending state approval. It took only a week for Mr. Reffkin, who jokes that in charter circles working for an investment bank makes him a rebel, to recruit a half-dozen of his friends from banks and hedge funds, all between 25 to 32, to join his board. All have pledged $50,000 a year for three years.

Mr. Reffkin, who was raised poor by a single mother in Oakland, Calif., and says he aspires to run for city office one day, considers charter schools “the civil rights struggle of my generation.”

Persuading pals to join his school’s 13-member board was “much, much easier than it would have been convincing them to give half as much to, say, a mainstream cultural institution,” he said. In October, his board rounded up 400 contributors for a $125-a-head fund-raiser for the school at the nightclub 1 Oak, with music by DJ Cassidy and D-Nice, an event intended to recruit other young financiers to the cause.

I could see Artur Davis or possible Bradley Byrne successfully recruiting well-heeled philanthropists in Alabama to invest their time and money on charter boards.   

 



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What Michael Mulgrew said. (0.00 / 0)

“But I would wish they would do it in a more foundational way, a way that would help all the children instead of just a small group.”

IMHO the article in the NYT should read; hedge fund high flyers help fund some charter schools in some NY City poor neighborhoods.  Therein lies the problem, the charter schools benefit the fortunate few but leave the masses behind.  I maintain IF Charter schools are the answer, meaning they close the achievement gap and guarentee results, why not do what charter schools are doing in ALL public schools? 

I'm all for public/private partnerships.  Wouldn't it be nice if Artur Davis and Bradley Byrne would recruit well-heeled philanthropists in Alabama to invest their time and money on public schools that would benefit all children and not just the fortunate few?   

 

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Why not do what charter schools are doing in all public schools? (0.00 / 0)

I'm not sure you would want that.  Many charters are non-union workplaces for one thing.  Do you want to do that in all public schools?  I don't.

The public education system has a lot of rules and regulations and is (apparently) not very flexible in the way teaching occurs.  Charter schools can more easily adjust the learning environment and tailor it to the needs (like ethnicity/language) of the community.  They're like laboratories.  You  can't experiment with the whole public school system.  Ideally, best practices from charters will eventually make their way into the broader pubic school system, but the innovation needs a place to start. 



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Uh, the reason (0.00 / 0)

Can be summed up in two word: teachers' unions

As long as teachers unions protect everybody's job regardless of how productive or successful they are then things will always be status quo.  Unlike other civil service workers teachers, principles, and administrators in public schools are protected by this green-eyed monster where once they become tenure they are guaranteed a job, and that what is insulting to those that wants to see reforms particularly urban school districts such as Birmingham.

Charters schools offer solutions and an alternative in urban school districts since the magnet schools are still behold to those teachers' unions. 



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The teachers union does not protect everybody's job regardless of how (0.00 / 0)

productive or successful they are.  That's brazen, right wing, anti teacher, anti teachers union spin. Tenure is not the problem.

Alabama.  As of July 1, 2000, principals hired for the first time in any school system in Alabama will not be eligible for tenure.  All principals hired will be given a probationary period of one to two years, depending upon their previous administrative experience.  After the probationary period, principals can be terminated with or without a reason, or offered an initial contract of not less than three years.  Performance reviews will be given annually based on state Department of Education standards.  

 

Other than no job security for teachers, principals and administrators (snark), what makes Charter Schools successful in your view?  I haven't heard a word about the curriculum, or test scores, or closing the achievement gap between black/white/poor students.  Are results guarenteed in Charter Schools? If so what are those results?



The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dreams shall never die.~Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D. MA)



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Several of us have mentioned those things in the recent past (0.00 / 0)

Please do some research and look at the innovative things some charter schools are doing with curriculum, with teaching methods, calendar and so forth and the results they are getting.  Then we can have a good discussion based on real information instead of talking points and knee jerks. 

Not much in life is guaranteed, so I'll figure you were just joking with that part of your question.



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Oh so little faith in something new (0.00 / 0)

Yet so much faith in the status quo.  You are starting to show us why progressives never can get anywhere in Alabama because you are always looking for guarantees from others and alternative methods when you can't even secure the guarantees of what you propose...

Can you guarantee that curriculum will be reformed with your ideas?  I need numbers and figures to believe you? 



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I oppose charter schools (0.00 / 0)
Public money for schooling is best used in the conventional public system. Those who don't want to use that system have the option of private schooling or homeschooling. And we also have magnet schools that work well. Charter schools will simply sap more money from public schools who desperately need it and who will face major cuts during this Depression

What jacool said. (0.00 / 0)
Public money for schooling is best used in the conventional public system. Those who don't want to use that system have the option of private schooling or homeschooling.

The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dreams shall never die.~Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D. MA)



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Poor, inner city parents don't have the option of private school or homeschooling (0.00 / 0)

That's an economic reality.  If charter schools can help in these neighborhoods -- and a number of studies show that well designed charter programs do make a difference -- then why such vehement opposition?  Isn't it better to give parents another option, even if they can't afford private school or home school?  It feels like we're cutting off our nose to spite our face on this one. 



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Poor inner city parents won't have the option of charter schools either. (0.00 / 0)

That's a real reality.  If you think the republicans are clammoring for charter schools to be put in "these neighborhoods" I've got some swamp land in Alaska to sell you.  The republicans are clammoring for charter schools as public funding for private schools for them.  Sure they'll open 1 or two charter schools in "these neighborhoods" so they can say they are offering some poor parents a choice, but the majority will be in "their" neighborhoods, no poor children allowed in "these neighborhoods".

Brooks, one of two key speakers, said that the Huntsville Housing Authority has in recent years quietly used vouchers to send poor families south and plans now to single out south Huntsville for more.

Going through the numbers at Whitesburg Elementary, Brooks argued that schools in south Huntsville have seen test scores drop in recent years "thanks in large part to what the Huntsville Housing Authority has done to us."



The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dreams shall never die.~Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D. MA)



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Check your preconceived notions, please (0.00 / 0)
"Contrary to myths and the flawed data that has been released over the years, charter schools do not “cherry-pick” the best students from conventional public schools. Half of charter school students fall into categories defined as at-risk (51 percent), minority (53 percent), or low-income (54 percent).  Conventional public schools do not provide the individualized attention and tailored curricula and programs that  charter schools can offer these students to improve their odds for academic success."

From page 10 of "Annual Survey of America's Charter Schools", Center for Education Reform. April, 2009.  Hat tip Wikipedia.  I recommend that you download it and read it.

Charter schools are more likely to serve low income students than conventional schools.  And Republicans don't and won't get to decide where charter schools are established.  It would be very helpful for everyone if you would check out your hypotheses before you start talking about them as though they're established fact.



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