Without Blue Dogs HCR Would Have Failed: No Thanks to Ours

Of the 39 Dems Voting NO, only 8 were Obama Districts (0.00 / 0)

and only 2 of those were where Obama got more than 55% of the vote

Rep. John Adler (N.J.) Obama 52, McCain 47
Rep. Jason Altmire (Pa.) McCain 55, Obama 44
Rep. Brian Baird (Wash.) Obama 53, McCain 47
Rep. John Barrow (Ga.) Obama 55, McCain 44
Rep. John Boccieri (Ohio) McCain 50, Obama 48
Rep. Dan Boren (Okla.) McCain 66, Obama 34
Rep. Allen Boyd (Fla.) McCain 54, Obama 45
Rep. Bobby Bright (Ala.) McCain 63, Obama 37
Rep. Rick Boucher (Va.) McCain 59, Obama 40
Rep. Ben Chandler (Ky.) McCain 55, Obama 43
Rep. Travis Childers (Miss.) McCain 62, Obama 38
Rep. Artur Davis (Ala.) Obama 74, McCain 26
Rep. Lincoln Davis (Tenn.) McCain 64, Obama 35
Rep. Chet Edwards (Texas) McCain 67, Obama 32
Rep. Bart Gordon (Tenn.) McCain 62, Obama 37
Rep. Parker Griffith (Ala.) McCain 61, Obama 38
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (S.D.) McCain 53, Obama 45
Rep. Tim Holden (Pa.) McCain 51, Obama 48
Rep. Larry Kissell (N.C.) Obama 52, McCain 47
Rep. Suzanne Kosmas (Fla.) McCain 51, Obama 49
Rep. Frank Kratovil (Md.) McCain 59, Obama 40
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) Obama 59, McCain 39
Rep. Betsy Markey (Colo.) McCain 50, Obama 49
Rep. Jim Marshall (Ga.) McCain 56, Obama 43
Rep. Eric Massa (N.Y.) McCain 51, Obama 48
Rep. Jim Matheson (Utah) McCain 58, Obama 40
Rep. Mike McIntyre (N.C.) McCain 52, Obama 47
Rep. Michael McMahon (N.Y.) McCain 51, Obama 49
Rep. Charlie Melancon (La.) McCain 61, Obama 37
Rep. Walt Minnick (Idaho) McCain 62, Obama 36
Rep. Scott Murphy (N.Y.) Obama 51, McCain 48
Rep. Glenn Nye (Va.) Obama 51, McCain 49
Rep. Collin Peterson (Minn.) McCain 50, Obama 47
Rep. Mike Ross (Ark.) McCain 58, Obama 39
Rep. Heath Shuler (N.C.) McCain 52, Obama 47
Rep. Ike Skelton (Mo.) McCain 60, Obama 38
Rep. John Tanner (Tenn.) McCain 56, Obama 43
Rep. Gene Taylor (Miss.) McCain 67, Obama 32
Rep. Harry Teague (N.M.) McCain 50, Obama 49

Those two - Artur Davis and Dennis Kucinich

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by: gradyw @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 01:09:56 AM CST

couple thoughts... (4.00 / 1)

...i'm hearing that a lot of those dems got "cover" to vote no from house leadership, who had the votes they needed to pass and then released those no voters.

as for kucinich...i assume he voted no because he wants single-payer and does not want to compromise down to this bill.

"...i have to quote marx here: groucho and chico were having a debate..." --barney frank

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by: fake consultant @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 08:04:36 AM CST

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that's right about Kucinich (4.00 / 2)

it was a purity vote. the only other purity vote may have been Eric Massa from New York who was a single payer advocate but also in a conservative district so it gave him cover as well.

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by: gradyw @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 08:40:24 AM CST

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Kucinich is Kucinich and will always be. (0.00 / 0)

He is that rarity, a legislator who would rather lose an election than surrender his principles.

Artur Davis, if I read the list right, told his constituents to go F**K themselves last night.  Now, I realize he is aiming for a larger constituency, but what makes anyone think he won't tell the whole state to go F**K themselves when and if it become politically convenient?

This is an important day for me.  It's the day I joined Redeye in the group who will sit our donkeys at home come election day, 2010. Of course, I say that metaphorically, I will go to the polls; I just won't vote for Governor.

A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Margaret Mead  

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by: piggieheart @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 08:52:09 AM CST

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Sparks has ticked me off... (0.00 / 0)

but on this issue he seems to have come around.  I am currently in your position but if he continues to improve as a candidate, he could earn my support.  Any chance that could be the case for you?

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by: bluebearcat @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 09:44:16 AM CST

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Anything's possible, bluebearcat, but he has a way to go. (0.00 / 0)

A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Margaret Mead  

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by: piggieheart @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 09:55:36 AM CST

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Davis for Gov? (0.00 / 0)

Davis will never get my vote again. IMO he is playing politics with HCR and that is just plain wrong.

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by: Svengali @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 09:12:51 AM CST

Of course HCR would have failed without the Blue Dogs (4.00 / 1)

That's the reason this bill has been held up so long in the House -- first they tried to roll the Progressive caucus to win support from all the Blue Dogs and when that didn't work they had to continually weaken the bill to lure a few Blue Dogs.  That culminated in the Stupak amendment last night which apparently brought in 3 to 5 more votes.

Work harder and work smarter!

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by: mooncat @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 09:38:33 AM CST

but even a couple of those flipping at last minute (0.00 / 0)

would have meant fail.

also shout out to the two new Dems Bill Ownes (NY-23) and John Garamendi (CA-10) who voted on the right side of history last night

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by: gradyw @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 09:49:02 AM CST

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In my book (4.00 / 1)

It is what it is.  

I knew it was going to happen.  I remembered that Davis voted against ENDA in 2008, but I voted for the Shepard/Byrd Hate Crimes bill this year.  

Yeah, that's politics, but I'm not about sacrifice the progressive future of Alabama over one issue including health care reform because to me what goes on Montgomery has more weight with me than this one vote.  However, I'm still going to vote for Davis come next June because anybody is better than Sparks including a pillowcase in my book.  

But that's why I'm a pragmatic, yet socially progressive Independent voter.  

"Hypocrites are those whom pick and choose prejudices while giving accolades for their own..."

"It is what it is."  

http://blkindependent.blogspot...

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by: kayman @ Sun Nov 08, 2009 at 17:03:48 PM CST