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On the Economy

by: mooncat

Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 12:18:27 PM CDT


For those of you who think we should refuse federal stimulus money or that there should have been no stimulus, I have two words:  Great Depression, or possibly Greater Depression.  Don't feel you should believe me, but do go read Deficits saved the world by Paul Krugman, a guy who won a Nobel Prize for economics.  He begins with a quote from Jan Hatzius of Goldman Sachs:

The private sector financial balance—defined as the difference between private saving and private investment, or equivalently between private income and private spending—has risen from -3.6% of GDP in the 2006Q3 to +5.6% in 2009Q1. This 8.2% of GDP adjustment is already by far the biggest in postwar history and is in fact bigger than the increase seen in the early 1930s.

That’s an interesting way to think about what has happened — and it also suggests a startling conclusion: namely, government deficits, mainly the result of automatic stabilizers rather than discretionary policy, are the only thing that has saved us from a second Great Depression.

It's a short piece, written so that even non-economists can follow along, and well worth the time to read.  There's even a picture.

The other economic piece I want to highlight is The American Choice: Break up and regulate companies or suffer another crisis, by Ian Welsh.  Just the highlights:

Too big to fail means to big to live.

... in order to work, capitalism requires that those who lose, lose.  Fundamentally the last 9 years didn't happen, in economic terms.  The banks, on aggregate, made no money.  The economy, on aggregate, added no jobs (they've all been wiped out and by the end of this most of the gains of the 90's will be gone too.)  When you screw up that badly, the discipline of markets requires that you lose everything.

... 

If you're big enough to set prices, you're too big to live, or at least to live free. 

Yeah, if you're so big your failure will throw the economy into a Great Depression, you know someone will bail you out when push comes to shove.  I'm going to suggest a new term today: 

Corporatist: Capitalist when the markets are good; socialist when the markets are bad.  Or "I keep all the profits, the taxpayers eat all the losses."

This is a bad situation.  None of us like the government bailouts or enlarging the national debt (esp. not on the heels of the George W. Bush Memorial Spending Spree) but the alternative is even worse.  So, the government is, and has been, spending to keep a bad situation from tipping over into meltdown.  But we don't want to end up in this situation again.  Let's fix it.

Smarter regulation is the solution - No, scratch that.  We've had smart people making regulations all along, too often those smart regulations have been tailored to benefit the very entities they are supposed to be regulating, with little regard for the public good.

Smart regulation on behalf of the public good is the solution.

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On the Colbert Report last night,, Steven's guest was... (4.00 / 1)

Douglas Rushkoff, author of "Life, Inc." Mr. Rushkoff describes the world as having become a corporation, with all the problems that entails.  If you missed it, go to your handy-dandy Comedy Central.com and check it out.



A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
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Great Obama video (0.00 / 0)

Campaigning for Gov. Corzine in New Jersey

That's not the America our children are going to inherit ...

There's some in Washington who want us to just go down the path we've already traveled ... the same old same old.

The path where we just throw up our hands at the challenges we face.  You hear those voices now:

Oh, health care's too hared, we can't do health care reform. 

Oh, energy, that's too hard, we can't free ourselves from dependence on foreign oil.

Oh, we can't regulate Wall Street, no that's too hard 

The only thing they're offering is more tax breaks to the wealthiest few that make the rich richer, and the deficit larger and leave you holding the bag.  That's their idea of America.  That's not a future that [we] accept.  We are moving in a new direction. That's what we believe in.



Work harder and work smarter!

amen, Mooncat (4.00 / 2)

Smart regulation on behalf of the public good is the solution.

Abso-freaking-lutely!

 It also protects businesses who are running themselves ethically. Without regulation, you throw the good guys to the wolves, and force everyone to compete with the cheaters.

The cheaters need to go to jail when they get out of line, not pull the strings for the rest of the country.



When in doubt tell the truth. It will confound your enemies and astound your friends.---Mark Twain


Excellent point! (4.00 / 1)

This is so often overlooked by the free market rules, no regulation, survival of the fittest crowd:

Without regulation, you throw the good guys to the wolves, and force everyone to compete with the cheaters.

Without regulation, every business is in a race to the bottom and that race goes to whichever smart SOB has the fewest scruples.  The prize is poverty for everyone, including the business owners.



Work harder and work smarter!

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